Few customers, lots of talk at Illini Republicans' bake sale

Few customers, lots of talk at Illini Republicans' bake sale

URBANA — While their "affirmative-action bake sale" drew a large crowd to their table on the quad Tuesday, the Illini Republicans weren't selling a whole lot of cookies.

"We've sold a few," said member Jakub Balicki, a UI freshman.

The group caused a stir last week when it announced plans for a bake sale — with a twist. Prices would be set based on race and ethnicity — "in much the same manner as our school manipulates admission requirements," the group said.

On Tuesday, a poster board informed passers-by that cookies cost $2 for Asians, $1.75 for whites, $1.50 for Hispanics/Latinos, $1.25 for blacks, $1.50 for "others" and minus-$0.25 for women.

"Above prices are suggested for discussion purposes," it read. "Ask for details."

"The point of our bake sale is to bring the issue of affirmative action into the light of the student population because we believe that school admissions should be based off a merit-based system," Balicki said. "If there's an African-American student and a white student who come from the same poor neighborhood, through affirmative action, the African-American student would have an advantage because they're seen as a more disadvantaged racial class compared to other races.

"If those two students apply to the same university at the same exact merits, they should be admitted for their merits and not just for the color of their skin."

As expected, the event sparked counter-bake sales in the same area.

The Chicano unity organization MEChA (Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Azlan) put on a "solidarity bake sale," in which items went for $1 apiece — no matter one's skin color or gender.

"We're out here to prove we're not quotas or tokens," said UI sophomore Juan Luna.

Luna and fellow MEChA member Jocelyn Ramirez said the proceeds they collected from Tuesday's sale would go to the C-U Immigration Forum.

"The most important thing we can do as an organization is to promote our own causes like helping C-U Immigration and using those funds to help them out," Ramirez said. "That's one of the causes we support as an organization."

Ramirez said Tuesday's bake sale led to a lot of discussion between the various student organizations participating, though many were left frustrated with the dialogue between the groups and the Illini Republicans.

"I feel like they have the outcome they wanted by having people come by and ask questions," Ramirez said, "but when someone tries to ask them questions, they weren't answering, so I'm not sure how productive it really was.

"'What was your upbringing?' 'What were some of your personal experiences?' Just to get to know them. It came off pretty rude for them to ignore some of those basic questions."

UI sophomore Earnest Lucious, a native of Chicago, was able to have a short conversation with members of the Illini Republicans.

"I felt it was important to combat this view," Lucious said. "They're probably not going to understand it because they built these beliefs over their entire lives, so a 10-minute conversation isn't going to change that."

"I simply came here to block their revenue because they're not going to listen to me anyway."

It was a mostly civil day, though at one point a student tried to confiscate the Republicans' baked goods before his efforts were thwarted by others.

Prior to the bake sale, Dementro Powell, the director of the Office of Registered Organizations, released a statement acknowledging that many students, faculty, staff and community members had taken offense to the nature of the Illini Republicans' sale.

Powell went on to note that the Illini Republicans followed standard procedure and received approval to hold the event on campus.

"The university does not withhold approval for these events based on the proposed purpose, topic or message," Powell wrote.

Staff members from Student Affairs met with the students as part of the process and told them that if the event involved discriminatory pricing based on race or ethnicity it would be a violation of UI policy and would be investigated by the Office of Student Conflict Resolution.

They were also told their pricing practices might violate the Illinois Human Rights Act and could result in a state investigation.

Tuesday's event led to a half-dozen other sales by various organizations, all saying they did so to promote inclusion.

Crescendo was as busy as any student group on the quad, selling cookies, brownies, cinnamon rolls and pies.

"We ran out of pumpkin bread, almost out of cinnamon rolls, ran out of banana bread, ran out of a pie earlier, but we got some more donated," said Crescendo president Deborah Waters, a UI sophomore.

Crescendo was accepting cash payments, as well as electronic payments from apps like Venmo. The group said proceeds will benefit its scholarship fund, which helps underrepresented students in performing arts on campus.

"We want to show that every student here is not just meeting a quota, but they're also qualified candidates, and we've exceeded admissions standards," Waters said.

"I actually think it's a good thing to have these kinds of conversations and for people to be vocal about those opinions because people tend to steer away from conversations related to social justice, and they're really important to have."

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CallSaul wrote on March 15, 2017 at 8:03 am

Today's Republican party --- the party of Trump, Bannon, the 'alt-right' and David Duke and other assorted white nationalists.

White ethnonationalists stirring up racial animosity and trouble for fun, profit and attention.

Republicans and rightwingers whine about being called racists and bigots...?

They wonder why this happens...?

No local Republican party officials have anything to say about this? They don't condemn it?

Then by their silence and inaction they condone and support it.

This was done in the name of all Republcans who remain silent about it.

Today's Republicans --- the party not just of Trump but of overt, loud and proud ethnonationalists and white nationalists.

At least it's all out in the open now...

EdRyan wrote on March 15, 2017 at 10:03 am

If the College Republicans intended to provoke the desired response from the University they achieved that goal.

"Staff members from Student Affairs met with the students as part of the process and told them that if the event involved discriminatory pricing based on race or ethnicity it would be a violation of UI policy and would be investigated by the Office of Student Conflict Resolution.

They were also told their pricing practices might violate the Illinois Human Rights Act and could result in a state investigation."

Inclusion is right, but failing to recognize that many lower and middle income white citizens feel they're being cut out by affirmative action efforts is a mistake. 

CallSaul wrote on March 15, 2017 at 10:03 am

These rightwing Republican activists didn't do this to start a nuanced discussion on the exact nature of current admission policies.

They did this to stir up white nationalism and racial resentment.

The fact is that racial and ethnic minorities are severely underrepresented at major universities.

It's also a fact that leaders across industires and in the military broadly support support including race and ethnicity as *one of the factors* when making admission decisions.

How exactly such policies should be administered each year and at each school should certainly be under constant discussion and review.

But again, these College Republicans are not trying to start a rational, mutually respectful dialog, as noted by their reaction to people who tried talking to them as described in the article.

They want to foment and capitalize on white resentment and nationalism.

Are you willing to denounce them for deliberately provoking racial and ethnic animosity and in so doing making rational discussion of the issue that much harder to achieve...?

honor9chief wrote on March 15, 2017 at 10:03 am
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The Democratic party, the party that represents the KKK, tax evaders, pedophiles, racial  attacks on the white race aka "the knockout whitey" game. All lead by a host of anti american socialists like Obama, Jarrett, Holder, Clintons, Jackson, Sharpton, Black Panthers, Black lives Matter "aka the Klan with a Tan", Anthony weener and Huma Abiden on and on and on. Thanks for allowing an American to be elected to drain all this hate and bigotry from our country. 

Not one time did we hear an apology about the brutal attacks on white people. Silence is consent. The analogy of affirmative action was perfect especially if you are a white male and are overlooked because of your skin and gender. Employers have been discriminating against white people, men especially since affirmative action leaving a lot of old white people trying to make it on Social Security and a part time job to pay the rent. 

The time is now to heal the division the former administration has done to this Country. By the way, why did Champaign run a circus clown with a Obama mask out of town and not one peep about Snoop Dogpoop assasinating President Trump video. Oh that's right the party of hate did the same to Bush.  Hypocrosy much?   

CallSaul wrote on March 15, 2017 at 10:03 am

Today's Republican party: a list of delsional grievances cribbed from Brietbart and Fox laced with reactionary bigotry and racism. 

Nothing but delusion, lies, resentment and hatred.

And all hilariously capped off by a call for unity and 'healing division,' by which they mean that everyone who disagrees with them needs to shut up and do what they say...

SaintClarence27 wrote on March 21, 2017 at 9:03 am

1) The knockout game is a myth. Do your research.

2) Odd that you claim that the Democratic Party represents the KKK, tax evaders, and pedophiles, considering it's actually the GOP that does that.

3) What brutal attacks on white people? Stop reading the Blaze and Breitbart.

4) I don't think you understand what discriminating means.

Seriously, have an original thought, or, absent that, at least make claims that are factually accurate.

honor9chief wrote on March 21, 2017 at 9:03 am
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You have no idea what you are spewing. You need to get off CNN and fake news that cover up these atrocities caused by Obozo

CommonSenseless wrote on March 21, 2017 at 10:03 am

The knock out game is a myth?  Tell that to the guy that had his face remodeled by a brick on campus in 2006-2007.  

SaintClarence27 wrote on March 21, 2017 at 11:03 am

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/26/knockout-game-myth/...

http://www.phillymag.com/news/2013/11/26/weve-sucker-punched-knockout-ga...

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/christandpopculture/2013/11/the-knockout-ga...

There's no "knockout whitey" game. There are street assaults, and some of them are racially motivated, sure. But the perpetuation of this myth that roving gangs of black youths are attacking random white people on the street in some game that is gaining popularity is harmful and untrue.

CommonSenseless wrote on March 21, 2017 at 12:03 pm

Your first source openly states "yes the game exists"  nice job on that one.  BTW, if the Urbana Police Chief told you they don't racially profile do you take him at his word?  I bet not, since you seem to be a tough SJW.  What politician would openly say about their city "we have roving gangs of youths beating people of other races for fun....but you should come to our town for the picturesque view."

 

Of course those politicians have an agenda but they wouldn't dare misinform the media, that would be unethical.

 

CallSaul wrote on March 21, 2017 at 6:03 pm

Your history of bigoted and racist comments on a wide array of topics shows what your assertions about a non existent phenomenon is worth.

You'll repeat any reactionary rightwing racist lie because it confirms your bigoted workdview.

 

CommonSenseless wrote on March 21, 2017 at 10:03 pm

You are a special kind of stupid....how can I be "racist" on multiple topics? Isn't being racist kind of the topic all by itself?  Is this your new approach?  Web stalk me and call me racist while at the same time calling yourself a beta and blaming it on me?  How many comment threads do you want to get shut down?  At this point I will assume you are some junior professor with an inferiority complex. You probably show these threads to your co-ed students in the hopes you can occasionally get laid. You are so pathetic. I can only hope that if the polar bear attacks continue, the victim is a self absorbed denier like you. But probably not likely since that fad ended several years ago. 

CallSaul wrote on March 21, 2017 at 11:03 pm

Hooh, boy. You have a history of bigoted and racist comments on a wide array of topics because --- follow along, now --- the comments you've made on a wide array of topics are, y'know, bigoted and racist.

That shouldn't really be that hard to grasp.

The threads have been shut down due to your insults, threats and most recently, your charming suggestion that I should blame myself if anyone I knew has committed suicide.

That's of course disgraceful but I'm sure you revel in it and mark it as a point of pride that you can muster up the courage to say such things while hiding behind the anonymity of the internet.

Your constant insults about others being beta males make it painfully obvious just how insecure your are about your identity.

Ever notice how men who aren't as insecure as you don't feel the need to constantly try to prove how manly we are...?

CommonSenseless wrote on March 22, 2017 at 8:03 am

So sayeth Saul....the self aggrandizing hypocrite.

CallSaul wrote on March 22, 2017 at 9:03 am

Hey, look: you didn't crib my words and idiotically repeat them back to me thinking it makes you seem clever and original.

That is real, tangible progress!

Maybe you really will be able to --- as the kidz say --- troll moar better...

SaintClarence27 wrote on March 22, 2017 at 7:03 am

What's wrong with being a warrior for social justice, exactly?

CommonSenseless wrote on March 22, 2017 at 8:03 am

To be a champion for liberty and justice for all, there is no problem.  In fact many great leaders have been born out of strife the SJWs reference.  The term SJW, however, is definitley meant in the perjorative.  It is comical to watch all you millenial white people claim to be some hardened "Warrior" for anything other than fighting for a latte.  Sure some of you may sit on panels or tasks forces in your local communities, but in the end you do more harm than good.  If the Navy Jack has the rattlesnake, the SJW jack would need the ouroboros.  

SaintClarence27 wrote on March 22, 2017 at 1:03 pm

To be a champion for liberty and justice for all, there is no problem.  In fact many great leaders have been born out of strife the SJWs reference.  The term SJW, however, is definitley meant in the perjorative.

That is a contradiction, don't you think? If there's no problem, then why is it meant as a perjorative? Perhaps you should consider your own statements and decide why you think that fighting for liberty and justice for all should be used as a perjorative.

Don Mega wrote on March 15, 2017 at 11:03 am

These young Republicans aren't smart enough to engage in adult conversation without first insulting large numbers of people...  But it's the "Others" that don't deserve to be enrolled?

 

You're Privilge is showing.

illinirazorback wrote on March 15, 2017 at 1:03 pm

I'm sure the bake sale and the conversations it provoked were a whole lot more intelligent than the comments in this section.

BruckJr wrote on March 15, 2017 at 3:03 pm

This would seem to be an opportune time for the News Gazette and Daily Illini to research and report upon the admission policies of the university.  If the university is admitting students with the same criteria, regardless of race, they should be anxious to show the students in question.

CallSaul wrote on March 15, 2017 at 4:03 pm

'...they should be anxious to show the students in question.'

What exactly do you mean by that...?

wykhb wrote on March 19, 2017 at 10:03 pm

Oh My, CallSaul first in line to show tolerance of other viewpoints as usual.   Since you carried on with so many obviously well-researched points earlier, why don't you just infer what is meant, since it all turns out the same in your mind anyway.    
The country will move on without you, at least you have your forum to spew your hatred, I have to admit it's strangely entertaining and humorous to observe your illness manifest itself in public. 

CallSaul wrote on March 20, 2017 at 9:03 am

In addition to the devestating 'I'm rubber but you're glue / I know you are but what am I' rhetorical tactics, rightwing Republicans are such masters of projection.

You certainly have the mentality and intellectual capacity, not to mention vocabulary, to fit right in with the rwnj trumpkin xenophobes and white nationalists in the Illinois College Republicans...

SaintClarence27 wrote on March 21, 2017 at 9:03 am

I have no problem with being intolerant towards bigotry and hatred. Those things are not illegal, but I can certainly call them out and have no problem doing so.

PSL wrote on March 19, 2017 at 11:03 pm

At least there's one thing we can all agree on: the old racist mascot is gone and never coming back.

CallSaul wrote on March 20, 2017 at 12:03 pm

Yep.

That racist mascot with the silly dancing frat boy acrobatic routine and flailing gyrations is gone and it's never coming back.

That's true no matter how many old men shake their fists and yell at clouds about it...

honor9chief wrote on March 20, 2017 at 10:03 am
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There isn't anything you Obozo/Clinton/Sanders fascist red shirts, bull horns carrying signs sitting in lawn chairs that will change the history, and greatness of America. Traitors like you need to find somewhere to spread your anti american coup. Oh, The Chief never left, will not leave and will show up again somewhere honoring the great tradition of honoring native americans rather than the unicorn beliefs that lwnj spew. The student wearing a cardboard beard representing Irish people is racist and not funny, the Chief not even a ounce of racism in the Chief. Why not have two students with cardboard cutouts of Pocohontas and Sitting Bull run on the field waving their cardboard. 

Sid Saltfork wrote on March 20, 2017 at 3:03 pm

"Obozo?Clinton/Sanders facist red shirts"?  "Traitors"?

The article is about young republicans on campus; not the chief.  Your rant about racism of mascots has nothing to do with the bake sale.  Stay on the subject of an article if you can do it.

By the way, not all chief fans are republicans.  They may have red shirts on under their chief costumes.

honor9chief wrote on March 21, 2017 at 9:03 am
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That pretty much describes the group you follow. Why did you choose to respond to me in regards to the subject like cali, rsp, et all? I am well aware that when we get in the voting booth no one knows how we vote. This was not about a bake sale either it is about the prejudice of affirative action. Affirmative action is a racist ruling that only eliminates white people "our privilege" from the hiring process. For example, "why you are just the person we are looking for", non white and gender specificate you get the pie for 2.00 while the rest of you 10.00". That's the way it works in corporate America. The Chief still lives and not just for old guys and the U of I could get a boost in their financial problems by bringing back honoring Native Americans  The ad nauseam diatribe of the Chief being racist while showing a drunk wearing a carboard beard making fun of Irish people is the epitome of bigotry allowed by the racists in CU. 

Dread Pirate DNT wrote on March 21, 2017 at 4:03 pm
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You'll notice nobody here is advocating for a drunk irishman to do a silly little aerobics routine at the halftime of sporting events. Do you see a difference? Or nah?

Probably not. 

honor9chief wrote on March 21, 2017 at 3:03 pm
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We are marching for dear old Illini
For the men who are fighting for you
Here's a cheer for our dear Alma Mater
May our love for her ever be true
While we're marching along life's pathway,
May the Spirit of old Illinois
Keep us marching and singing
In true Illini Spirit
For our dear old Illinois 

honor9chief wrote on March 21, 2017 at 3:03 pm
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Thanks to all of the Illini who made this University great and your continued support of our motto symbolized by a Native American SYMBOL not MASCOT of the toughness of our Native Americans who dealt with all kinds of issues. So has all of our fighting military men and women hence, Fighting Illini.

 

We're loyal to you Illinois
We're "Orange and Blue," Illinois
We'll back you to stand
'Gainst the best in the land
For we know you have sand,
Illinois
Rah! Rah!
So crack out the ball Illinois
We're backing you all Illinois
Our team is the fame protector;
On boys, for we expect a
Victory from you Illinois
Chehee, Cheha, Cheha-ha-ha
Go Illini Go
Chehee, Cheha, Cheha-ha-ha
Go Illini Go
Illinois, Illinois, Illinois
Fling out that dear old flag of
Orange and Blue
Lead on your sons and daughters,
Fighting for you;
Like men of old, on giants
Placing reliance, shouting defiance
Oskee-wow-wow!
Amid the broad green plains
That nourish our land,
For honest labor and for learning we stand,
And unto thee we pledge our heart and hand,
Dear Alma Mater, Illinois  

CallSaul wrote on March 21, 2017 at 3:03 pm

Nope.

The racist old chicken feather 'chief' was nothing but a gyrating mascot doing a bad acrobatic routine.

That tired old racist mascot is gone for good and it'll never be the university's mascot again.

And they're most definitely not your Native Americans.

It's very telling that you assert that they are yours...

Illiniwek222 wrote on March 21, 2017 at 5:03 pm

Yet the Chief appears at every football and basketball game, though not on the field.

And there is just as much Illiniwek apparel on campus as 10 years ago when he "retired". That's the current generation, Saul. Deal with it.

 

CallSaul wrote on March 21, 2017 at 6:03 pm

It's a free country and the goofball who likes to play dressup in public is free to do so.

But the old racist mascot still isn't coming back.

When was the last time you were on campus. A game day or something when it's crawling with overfed alumni dragging their carcases around? On normal days there is actually far less racist chicken feather chief imagery on campus than there was 10 years ago.

And the old racist mascot still isn't coming back.

And in 5 years there'll be less still.

And the old racist mascot still isn't coming back.

And even less in 10 years.

And the old racist mascot still isn't coming back.

And so on...

And the old racist mascot still isn't coming back.

Deal with it yerself...

Illiniwek222 wrote on March 22, 2017 at 10:03 am

You Chief haters are fairly amusing, though ever repetitive with the same tired phrases. I'm on campus every week. I take it by your comments, you are not. 

And Illiniwek in person or attire will be on campus long after you and your ilk have stopped your incessant whining.

 

CallSaul wrote on March 22, 2017 at 5:03 pm

Then you should probably do a bit of research on self reporting and confirmation bias.

And next time you see the goofball playing dressup or someone wearing an image from the past, don't forget to remember that the old racist mascot will never be the school's mascot again...

Illiniwek222 wrote on March 23, 2017 at 9:03 am

Same old tired, repetitive comments.

You should really seek treatment for your OCD and anger issues. Seeing all the Chief imagery on campus is taking a toll on you.

CallSaul wrote on March 23, 2017 at 1:03 pm

Let's see, you can't let the old defunct racist mascot go, you even have it in your screen name, and you delude yourself into believing that the defunct old racist mascot is somehow coming back.

And you call my comment old...?

You rightwingers really are the masters of projection.

You lost. 

Get over it.

Let the old racist mascot go. 

The old racist mascot is defunct. 

The old racist mascot is kaput.

And the old racist mascot is never going to be the school's mascot again.

Now tell me how you think I'm somehow living in the past by suggesting that maybe you should stop doing so...

Illiniwek222 wrote on March 23, 2017 at 4:03 pm

Time for your meds, Saul.

CallSaul wrote on March 23, 2017 at 6:03 pm

If only you could bottle the sheer wit and devastating finality of your cringe inducing comebacks...

Illiniwek222 wrote on March 24, 2017 at 9:03 am

The men in the white coats are here, Saul. It's for your own good...please go with them.

CallSaul wrote on March 24, 2017 at 10:03 am

Let's see how many times I can make you mindlessly repeat this highly original and effective comeback...

Illiniwek222 wrote on March 24, 2017 at 12:03 pm

The happy wagon just pulled up. Hop in, Saul.

CallSaul wrote on March 24, 2017 at 1:03 pm

Dance for me again, monkey.

Say the words...

Illiniwek222 wrote on March 24, 2017 at 1:03 pm

"old racist mascot...old racist mascot..old racist mascot..."

I've found your affliction.. palilalia, non-verbal.

I'm sorry, there is no cure for you.

 

CallSaul wrote on March 24, 2017 at 2:03 pm

That's 5 times so far. I'm betting I can get you into double digits.

Dance again, monkey...

Illiniwek222 wrote on March 24, 2017 at 2:03 pm

I'm done. To paraphrase Judy Collins, "don't bother, Saul's here."

CallSaul wrote on March 24, 2017 at 3:03 pm

Oh, you're just not trying. You were such a good dancing monkey for a while there.

But bad news: despite your furious --- and very original --- internetting, the old racist mascot will never be the school's mascot again...

Illiniwek222 wrote on March 24, 2017 at 3:03 pm

Palilalia, non-verbal.

CallSaul wrote on March 24, 2017 at 4:03 pm

Alright!

Back in the saddle for the sixth repetition of your weak minded comeback!

Let's get this thing into double digits!

Now dance again, monkey...

Dread Pirate DNT wrote on March 21, 2017 at 4:03 pm
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The silly racist mascot is gone forever and soon all of the ancient supporters of the silly racist mascot will die off as well. There is no honor is the faux chief and there never has been. 

There is also no connection to honoring the military with the silly racist mascot. 

Also, this article has nothing to do with the silly racist mascot that will never return. 

PSL wrote on March 21, 2017 at 11:03 pm

Illinois Loyalty is a good song because, unlike the old racist mascot, it is not racist. It's pretty cool how you can cheer for this great University in so many ways without being racist!

Mr Dreamy wrote on March 21, 2017 at 4:03 pm

"We'll back you to stand

'Gainst the best in the land"

 

Really? Those are in the lyrics? You mean the Illini are not the best in the land? 

The Illini are losers?

 

Well, the real Illini were losers, too because they are all dead and gone, as is their culture since it was absorbed, or forgotten, except in the minds of old white guys who dream of a past that never existed.

Dead. Gone. Forgotten but for an amateur dance by some college kid.